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Posted by Jeffree Gilbert on December 11, 1998 at 11:12:14:

In Reply to: Re: Calling all Heretics posted by Holly Popowski on December 10, 1998 at 15:53:25:

: First a correction. You think that I implied that due to a lack of evidence against God's existence that one must be compelled to have faith. Please reread and you will find that you drew that conclusion not I.

You also are very skeptical. This is not by nature bad it is interesting that you are skeptical about God and not about science.

Many Phd's do insist that God does insist, just ask around campus. Are they lying?

But more about lies in the name of science. Ever seen a hole in the ozone layer?
Well, many Phd's insist there is one and just as many insist there isn't and some say that it doesn't matter because we could never measure it anyhow. Somebody is lying.

Back around the turn of this century there was a new crop of sciences proliferated by many "great SCIENTISTS" such as Louis Aggasiz that felt they knew the truth. They're truth was that blacks, hispanics, womyn, Any non-white peoples were biologically inferior to the white race. You know what? They had evidence to support it. Some of this evidence was completely fabricated by guess who - Phd's. Biological determinism had a scientific foundation and was "proved deeply"(it always helps when a researcher has complete mastery of statistical methods, it makes fudging easier, more accurate and more difficult to detect). This blind faith in science as the complete and total truth certainly did not help race relations in the US. This justification of racism prolonged the struggle for equality for likely another 50 years. Why? Because unethical or misguided scientist took advantage of the traditional notion of science being pure objective knowledge that is free of political and social taint. Scientists are people with ideas and do not always search for an objective truth, many times they are searching for a particular truth just as Paul Broca, Carl Bringham, Sir Cyril Burt, Alfred Binet and many others who are guilty of complicity. If you would like more info read S.J. Gould's "The Mismeasure of Man". Or for another example study up on global climate change many of the predictions are pure speculation. With no solid evidence to support them. There are many Phd's out on a limb with that issue and only because they believe strongly in that issue. Or for some real fun check out the Flat Earth Society and its membership list.

Ultimately, my only point on this matter is why be so skeptical about GOD and be so sure about science. If you look back at the 1300's they were just as sure about God as we are about science now amd is there anything we might be able to learn from that.

W


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